Family of Joshua Lyes 3.
MARY WATSON/ LYES
b...1822
d...22.8.1853...Auckland,
New Zealand.
ELIZABETH BRENNAN/ MONEY/ LYES
b...
d...14.10.1897
Age...76 years
1st Marriage: 2.9.1841...
Christ's Church, St Andrew the Less,
Cambridgeshire, England.
2nd Marriage:
JOSHUA LYES 3
b...Barrow, England
d...unknown, possibly 1888
Age...77 years
EMMA LYES/ BILLINGS
b...3/4.6.1846...Cambridgeshire,
England.
baptised...5.7.1846...Barrow,
England.
d...
MARY 'HANNAH' LYES
b...25/6.5.1849
baptised...5.8.1855...Auckland,
New Zealand
d...unknown
Offspring of Joshua 3 & Mary Lyes.
JOHN LYES
b...30.10.1842...Cambridgeshire,
England.
d...1934
age...71 years
ALBERT LYES/ MONEY
b...11.11.1854.
baptised...4.8.1855
d...16.2.1920.
Age...65 years.
HENRY HOWARD LYES
"Harry"
b...27.3.1856...
d...Mt Eden, Auckland,
New Zealand.
Age...78 years.
CLARA LYES/ GREEN
b...8.11.1857 at sea, near New Zealand.
d...
Elizabeth also had five children by her first husband, William Whalan Money. Albert was listed as a Lyes by Joshua when he sold property, yet his birthdate is the same as registered in the Church Baptism Register as Albert Money.
It is unknown what happenned to William Whalan Money.
JAMES WILLIAM WHALAN MONEY/ LYES
b...15.1.1848/9
d...7.5.1925.
Age...80 years
WILLIAM MONEY
b...23.5.1847
d...
EMMALINE MONEY/ MAXWELL
(EMILY)
b...
d...possibly died in childbirth as records show Richard leaving Auckland 17.8.1869 but not with anyone esle.
CAROLINE MONEY
b...
d...
Age...17 months
Birth confirmed at Auckland, 15.1.1849 to William Whalan Money and Elizabeth.
James went under the name of Lyes, though his pension was paid to James Money suggesting he never legally changed his name. He married under the name Lyes to Agnes Brown and his children went under the name of Lyes.
AGNES BOWN/ LYES
b...Shropshire, England
d...
Married: 26.3.1885
New Zealand.
Electoral rolls show William Money as residing at Lucas Creek, a farmer. He does not appear again in pension records in 1865. He must have died or left the country.
Offspring of Joshua 3 & Elizabeth Lyes.
DANIEL GREEN
b...
d...
Married:
1st Marriage: 30.12.1862...
Presbyterian Church, Hinton, NSW, Australia.
2nd Marriage:
18.12.1889
ESTHER TULK/ LYES
b...
d...
Age...22 years (Typhus)
JANE ELIZABETH HERIVAL
d...1965...Turua, New Zealand,
Age...93 years
Married: 9.2.1868
JAMES AUGUSTUS BILLINGS
b...30.10.1842...Cambridgeshire,
England.
d...
1st Marriage:
2nd Marriage:
TAYLOR
b...
d...
SEVERS
Married: 15.9.1864
St. Matthew's Church, Auckland
1 child:
MATILDA ANN MAXWELL
b...26.6.1865
d...18.2.1869
Age 3 years.
RICHARD MAXWELL
b...
d...
JAMES WILLIAM WHALAN MONEY
b...15.1.1849
d...
Married:
Married:
AMY CAMPBELL
b...c...1860...England.
d...19.8.1950...Auckland,
New Zealand.
Age...90
Married:
ADA CAMPBELL/ LYES
b...
d...20.11.1931...Mt.Eden, Auckland, New Zealand.
Age...61 years
NOTES:
1. The death of Joshua's wife Mary (Watson) on 22.8.1853 at the age of 31 left Joshua in quite a predicament. He had 3 children - ages 4, 7 and 11 and no mother for them.
2. Early 1855 land deeds show Joshua Lyes of Lucas Creek, a farmer, purchased 4.5 acres of land at Lucas Creek for 2 pound 10 shillings. Sold again in 1870 for 28 pound. In 1856 Joshua bought a statio from James Maxwell. This station was established before 1844 and was 42 acres. Joshua sold this in 1867 to Montgomery.
3. In 1846, William Whalan Money bought 6 acres of land at Lucas Creek which adjoined Joshua's original purchase In DFec 1848 Money sold this to Rev. David Bruce and this is the last known mention of Money.
4. 8 Oct 1847 the 691 ton barque Minerva arrived at Auckland with the 56th Regiment. Made up of many married men and familes. An incentive of land and other items had been offered. WQIlliam WHalanMoney was among these with his wife, Elizabeth and two children.
5.Birth notice: James Whalan Money 15.1.1849, son of William Whalan Money, a Fencible of Howick.
6. Birth Notice: Caroline Money 12.10.1851, daughter of William Whalan Money, a Fencible of Howick.
7. St Paul's Church register of baptisms: Albert, baptised 5.8.1855, birthdate 11.11.1854, son of William and Eliizabeth.
This all gets to be a bit of a mess but it seems the correct understanding is there seems to be threee family units: His, Hers and Theirs - as above.
JOHN & ESTHER LYES:
1. Married 1862 - John was 21, Esther was 15.
2. Joshua, their eldest, born Aug 1863, Glenlevette, NSW, Australia.
3. Feb, 1862 John had enrolled in Sydney with the 4th Waikato Regiment to fight in the Maori War.
4. March, 1865 John demobbed and given his land grant.
5. Joshua was born 21.8.1863, Glenvette, N.S.W., Australia. He was almost 3 when he and his mother Esther came to NZ to join his father John.
6. One month before his 7th Birthday, Joshua's mother Esther died of Typhus and he was taken in by Emma Billings, John's sister, who brought him up as her own.
327. John remarried, 18.12.1889 to Jane Elizabeth Herivel. They had 10 children. They lived for 9 years in Crosby's settlement, near Table Mountain raising cattle. They also owned a home at Irishtown (Thames). Jane often lived there with the younger children while John and the older children stayed on the farm.
8. Jane died on her daughter's farm Turua, 1965, age 93.
9. John died 1934, age 71.
Children of John & Jane:
1. Jane Elizabeth b...7.3.1892, d...6.6.1981, age 89, m...14.6.1945 to Harold Bennett Chalton (d...12.1918, age 69:2 daughters:
Gwenda, b...2.6.1924; m...Samuel Leslie Bond - 1 child - Maree.
Betty, b...3.3.1929; m...18.6.1949 to Albert Rex Lomas: 2 sons - Graeme & Brian.
2. Myrtle, b...10.12.1894, d...17.10.1919 (age 24), m...21.2.1918 to Arthur Smith: 1 son: Jack Edward b...16.9.1918.
3. John William, b...29.3.1896, KIA...3.12.1917 age 21.
4. Fanny, b...10.6.1898, d...26.9.1984 age 85. m...Francis Nettleingham: 3 Children: Mary, William, Frances.
5. Joshua Tulk, b...1.10.1900, d...21.6.1978 age 77, m...3.2.1926 to Doris Martha Holden, d...14.5.1974, age 72: 1 child: John Albert.
6. Charles Philip, b...26.1.1902, d...15.5.1978, age 76, m...4.2.1925 to Emma McGuiness: 3 children: Joyce Myrtle, Leonard Philip, Winsome Betty. Lived in Australia.
7. Esther Alma, b...8.10.1904, m...18.12.1924 to Herbert Brown d...12.11.1939 age 48: 4 children: Twins Jean & Gladys b...24.8.1926, Lesley Roy b...19.11.1928, Margaret Myrtle b...27.6.1934.
8. Madge, b...16.6.1907, m...25.6.1936 to Arthur Sutton d...4.3.1970 age 82: 2 children: Raymond and Valda.
9. Evelyn, b....14.10.1910, m...25.6.1936 to George Walters, d...14.10.1973 age 59: 1 son: Richard George.
10. Harold Edward, b...29.7.1913.
It is unclear if Joshua and Elizabeth ever married.
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